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Friday, September 10, 2010

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Man, i really gotta make some of this movies with donate links, i bet there are ppl stupid enough to actually donate!

PSMITHjl

What would be the point of the government demo'ing this and covering it up? Although it is highly unlikely that a building would crumble so neatly, it is in fact possible. How were the charges placed without anyone knowing it? To pull off this "conspiracy" the focus needed to be as tight as possible. With the very convincing terrorist assault on the twin towers, this would be superfluous. I think that this was simply a fluke, but I could be wrong. GWB & Co. were crooks, not evil geniuses!
arcanacelestia

Below is a link to an Italian Documentary with English Subtitles. The whole world knows WTC 7 was collapsed by pre-planned controlled demolition. Even if only one part of the 911 story is a lie then the whole 911 story is a lie. The preplanned Demolition of WTC 7 is the most obvious lie which shows 911 was a Zionist attack falsely blamed on Arabs so the US could occupy Iraq’s oil fields. Iran is next on the list. The US is controlled by Renegade Psychopaths called Zionists.

/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0

LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ I guess the Zionists were not smart enough to make any of the hijackers Iraqi ????????

arcanacelestia
@LOLCATS3111 Zionist Israelis were not smart enough to make any of the hijackers Iraqi. Zionist Israelis were also not smart enough to stop three Mossad Agents (dancing Israelis) from being arrested by the NYPD because they dressed up as Palestinians setting up cameras in the street in preparation to film 911, and then they went on Israeli TV and admitted they were in New York to film the event. Today Israelis like LOLCATS311 are on YT trying to clean up the mess they made of 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

blackcrow6667
This obviously, without doubt, is controlled demolition. Anyone who believes otherwise isn't very bright and it's amazing to me that this passes as kook conspiracy to the average person.

LOLCATS3111
@blackcrow6667 ~ and your conclusions come from your MANY years in the controlled demolition field or reading conspiracy websites ??????

blackcrow6667
@LOLCATS3111 Maybe, the building slipped on a banana peel...

LOLCATS3111

@blackcrow6667 ~ or maybe 7 hours of fire caused a structural failure

blackcrow6667

@LOLCATS3111 Yes, a structural failure evenly distributed and perfectly timed at all crucial points? I'd stick with the banana peel theory. :)

arcanacelestia
@LOLCATS3111 or maybe LOLCATS3111 is an Israeli prentending to be an American for the purpose of Zionist on-line disinformation to distract attention from the fact that Israelis are terrified that Americas might realise that 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 Below is a link to a Documentary with English Subtitles Proof of Thermite at WTC. The whole world knows WTC 7 was pre-planned demolition. Even if only one part of the 911 story is a lie then the whole 911 story is a lie. The Controlled Demolition of WTC 7 is the most obvious lie which shows 911 was a Zionist attack falsely blamed on Arabs so the US could occupy Iraq’s oil fields. Iran is next on the list. The US is controlled by Renegade Zionist Psychopaths.

/watch?v=m3Oig4IbBNg

jerseygrl5

@LOLCATS3111 Google the CCTV fire in Beijing China. A 44 story building that burned out of control for more than 24 hours but the steel frame still stands. This just happened last year.

arcanacelestia

@jerseygrl5 Watch how bad this fire is yet steel buildings are never brought down by fire alone.

/watch?v=tDMW1_AslYQ

And also

/watch?v=A-c-6qkbxd0

Witness to many explosions inside Building 7 BEFORE it collapsed.

/watch?v=PbbZE7c3a8Q

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LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ so do have you come up with an answer as to WHY NO 130db detonations were picked up by ANY vidoe camera or seismograph just prior to the collapse of all three buildings ???

have you come up with an answer as to why NO PHYSICAL EVIDNECE of a cd like blasting caps, det cord, or copper connetcors were EVER found in the debri pile ???

have you come up with an answer as to why NO BLOWN APART STEEL BEAMS were ever found in the debri pile ???

TheDanesaly

@LOLCATS3111 Ye know why there was none of that stuff because it wasnt a cd, it was an underground nuclear explosion. think its a bit crazy check out dimitri khalezovs videos on vimeo.com and it will start to make some sense.

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 I will repeat my answers to those questions as soon as LOLCATS replies to my rejection of his false accusation that being anti-Semitic goes hand in hand with believing 911 truth.

The link below shows a Former Israeli Government Minister declaring on American Television that calling people ANTI-SEMITIC is a trick which Israelis use to conceal and suppress criticism of the Israeli government's abuse of Palestinians. And LOLCATS answer is ...?

watch?v=uW3a1bw5XlE

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LOLCATS3111

@jerseygrl5 ~ The Beijing fire had OVER 1,000 fire fighters battling it, the building was a concrete reinforced steel frame with a concrete core and we all know that concrete stands up to fire much better then steel does

illuminumnuts

If you observe the Establishment TWOOF-TARDS for a while, then you'll see that they make these dumb posts. They'll soon be rounded up with their fellow 'WMD in Iraq' and 'Saddam Hussein was linked to Al Qaeda' loons and packed off to the sanitarium. They'll love it in there though, as they'll get fed loads of drugs and be able to make up more wacky stories to their hearts content. They can then hook up with all the other fringe loonies and will surely make a great team. The 'Sanitarium Shills'

edicccc

I never believed that a bunch of Arabs did this. Clearly it was all planned. Why is it so hard to prove this? And I do not agree with blaming Jews or any other religion. This is planned by a group of men who think they know what is best for the world and believe they used this unbelievable crime to achieve their goals. Many people must have known about this. Can't believe no one is talking.


@edicccc What's so hard about believing the Al Qaeda did it? Do you think they don't exist? Do you think they didn't attack the USS Cole or attack Cobart Towers in Saudi Arabia or attack the US embassies in Nairobi and Dar Es Salaam?

arcanacelestia
@edicccc Thank you for your balanced comment, to which will only add that the group of men who believe they know what is best for the world are called Zionists. Zionists are NOT true Jews but they have subverted and manipulated both American politics and Israeli politics. Jews are NOT the problem. Zionists are the problem because they are international criminals who use Israel as their platform for malign political international influence. See the link below

jewsagainstzionism(.)com

arcanacelestia

@edicccc At the link jewsagainstzionism(.)com you should read the sections entitled “Zionism”, “The Holocaust” and “Anti-Semitism”, and you will be shocked to discover that not only was 911 an inside job but the Holocaust was also an inside job by Zionists against Jews. I know this sound too difficult to believe but Jews Against Zionism will confirm that it’s TRUE. Zionists are Psychopaths who make Israel the most dangerous place in the world for Jews under the fake banner of Jewish Victimhood

LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ why is it being an anti-Semetic ASSHOLE goes hand in hand with being a TWOOF-TARD !?!?!??!?!

arcanacelestia
3 hours ago
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PoetryHound
4 hours ago
@arcanacelestia "the Holocaust was also an inside job by Zionists"

So arcan turns out to be a psychopath. What a shock.

arcanacelestia
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@PoetryHound "the Holocaust was also an inside job by Zionists", is a quote from the Jewish Website “jewsagainstzionism(.)com” section “The Holocaust”. Section “Zionism” distinguishes between true Torah Jews and Zionist Talmudic Jews who are renegade Psychopaths that have subverted and manipulated American and Israeli politics. Zionists made Germany a genocidal danger to Jews and today Zionist genocidal abuse of Palestinians makes Israel the most dangerous place in the world for Jews. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

stepleechase

Simple as this, US governament just demolished the buildings, thats not a building falling by it self, not that and not twin towers, thats detonations. Just doesn't see who don't want to see. PERIOD

amagee590

-- Lest we forget --

--- 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌ ---

CriminalState com

kreplach2

@amagee590 -Lest we forget-

Andrew Krepiach Magee is not only an impersonator in the YT world but hes has a rap sheet in the real world. Ive been told hes a noted paedophile by many here. This would explain why hes accused so many with sympathies for Israel . its psychological projection.My best guess is thats hes bitter about being under house arrest in Sydney.

amagee590

No, liar-kreplach, we have been through this before. I am of course NOT a "paedophile" nor is there the slightest evidence to suggest I am. Neither, liar-kreplach, is there the slightest evidence I am under "house-arrest". I am an decent law-abiding citizen with a clean record. YOU, on the other hand, can quite righthly be considered a CRIMINAL, due to the NUMEROUS offences of CRIMINAL defamation you have committed.

Any other issues about which you'd like to blather truthlessly, liar-kreplach?

PoetryHound

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arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Israelis are soooo desperate to give the false impression that only a fading minority of Americans believe 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌. We the American People know Israel is guilty and the more these on-line Israelis deny the truth of their guilt, the more we Americans know 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

kreplach2

@arcanacelestia The more you promote the pure speculation that somehow Jews were involved in 911 the less the American people will believe 911 truthers, My guess is THATS EXACTLY what you want.

amagee59
Not "speculation", liar-kreplach. Logical deduction. And of course no-one is suggesting ALL Jews were involved or had foreknowledge of 9/11 - far from it, just a relatively small number of zionist Jews who happen to be inclined towards extreme murderous criminality. Now YOU of course are a rabidly zionist/Jewish person who has committed numerous criminal acts. Perhaps you are not as stupid as you make out, eh? Maybe you know more than you are letting on. Hmmm?

arcanacelestia

@kreplach2 uses the Star of Remphan as his symbol so kreplach2 has invested his whole life and soul into deceiving and exploiting the Goyim. For this reason we Goyim must express our gratitude to kreplach2 and his diabolical crew of fellow Luciferians, for the effort they have made towards bring the Goyim to understand the true nature of Evil. I salute !

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What the fudge

shanman1019

The US should stop invading countries and these things wouldnt happen

arcanacelestia

@shanman1019 Correct. America has not been in a just war since the end of WWII. Millions of innocent people have died because of deviant American militarism and today America and Israel export terrorism to the Islamic world. Soviet Leaders like Stalin are no worse than American and Israeli leaders and the US will economically collapse and break up exactly as the soviet Union broke up, and Israel abuse of Palestians will make Israel the most dangerouse place in the world for Jews.

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sparkymmilarky

Aids

arcanacelestia

@BlackmoonUK After 9 years you now realise why the US government report said they don't know why WTC7 collapsed, because it was not hit by any aircraft yet it fell into it's own footprint AT FREE FALL SPEED, which is only achievable with pre-wired demolition shearing all 24 vertical core columns AT EVERY ONE OF THE 47 FLOORS . If you only sheared the columns at the bottom then the building would only fall one floor before asymmetrically buckling and then toppling over like a felled tree.

star3ize

@arcanacelestia yaa

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia

"It fell into it's own footprint"

Wrong. It damaged buildings OUTSIDE of its footprint.

"AT FREE FALL SPEED"

Wong. Only 2.25 seconds were at free fall.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound As shown in the video link below, NIST has admitted that WTC7 fell at freefall speed.

/watch?v=mSyqfM-Rgy0

and as shown the link below, that WTC 7 fell at free fall speed is no longer controversial

/watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I

On-line disinformation comments are from Israelis pretending to be Americans because Israelis are terrified that Americans might realise 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌This video has had over a million views and that’s why the Israelis are so busy on this thread.

911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia NIST admits that WTC 7 only fell at free fall for 2.25 seconds. Overall, the collapse was 40% slower than free fall. NIST also admits there's no evidence of any explosives.

As for WTC 7 falling in its footprint, you're wrong. It didn't.

You're also wrong that explosives at WTC 7 wouldn't have been detected by seismographs. No seismologist says that.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Won-Younger Kim says the 1993 bomb which blew up the FBI building did not show on the nearby seismograph instruments because the explosion was above ground and therefore not coupled to the earth. Won says that only the collapse of the WTC would vibrate the ground. I ask you to name the Seismologists who say the WTC demolition explosions would give seismic recordings but you only cite something you falsely claim was said by Won but you can't find the article because it does not exist

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia The FBI building is not WTC 7. Which seismologist says any explosions at WTC 7 would not have been detected by seismic instruments? Kim doesn't say that. Who does? BTW, your fellow kooks claim detonation charges WERE found in the seismic record from the twin towers. So you guys can't even agree.

If you bothered to look, you'd see that Firehouse doesn't keep all its archives on line. Go find the article somewhere else. I give sources. You're the one that makes baseless claims

arcanacelestia
@PoetryHound Fire House Magazine DO KEEP all there archives on-line and Won is not there. You say you give sources so you should scan the Fire House article quoting Won and post the scanned image to an internet host site then post the link here where we can all see it. If you don’t do this then we know you are an Israel who specialises in on-line 911 disinfromation.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "Fire House Magazine DO KEEP all these archives on-line"

No they don't. They only leave selective articles and notices from old issues.

illuminumnuts

@PoetryHound SCATHOUND, I already told you once to stop using multiple accounts. You looking to have your bottom badly spanked? You want to ready your rump for future incidents where you pick up the soap during your 2 years sentence? Everyone can see it and it's likely that you have other accounts too. You stick out like a sore thumb. All Youtubers reading this comment. How can you trust a single word that this guy says? You can't! If he had any faith in what he said he'd say it on one account!

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound The link firehouse(.)com/magazine/archi ves shows that Fire House Magazine offer on-line searching of 12 issues per year 1996 to 2010. It is absurd to say that Fire House Magazine would not select and archive an article investigating seismic measurements of a disaster which killed over 300 Firefighters. The quote you attribute to Won-Young Kim is a ridiculous statement which no scientifically trained person would make. You can’t cite the source because you made it up.

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arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound claims that Won-Young Kim said in Fire House Magazine, "Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, as with the Twin Towers, the collapse of WTC 7 began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading to global collapse". The quote PoetryHound attributes to Won Young Kim only appears on three Israel "debunking" websites and they don’t attribute those words to Won Young Kim or any other Seismologist.

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arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound The quote from Won-Young Kim which @LOLCATS3111 and PoetryHound claim to have seen is nonsense which Won-Young Kim would never have said because the time frame only covers 20 seconds and ALL demolitions stagger explosives over 10 to 15 seconds. The quote allegedly from Won assumes demolition is always done in one big BANG, so Won would never have said this and the quote is dumb Israeli debunking disinformation which PoetryHound cannot produce because it doesn't exist.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia How ironic that you whine about not finding my source when you fail to present any sources to back up your unsubstantiated assertions.

You claim explosions at WTC 7 wouldn't have registered on seismically, yet can cite no one who agrees with this.

You claim there's "no shortage" of demo experts who say explosives brought down the twin towers, yet can't cite any.

You claim there was 3 ft of crawl space under each floor of the WTC buildings, yet can point to nothing to verify it.

Drowningtrout
@PoetryHound buildingwhat org

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "ALL demolitions stagger explosives over 10 to 15 seconds."

ALL of them? Says who?

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Demolition charges are staggered is because simutaneous detonation of hundreds of charges would create a big blast which could cause unpredictable disturbance of the symetery needed for controlled demolition. PoetryHound repeatedly asks "Says Who?" because PoetryHound foolishly argues on a technical subject which he knows nothing about and PoetryHound foolishly tries but fails to practince disinformation against people who know more than he does. PoetryHound's only skill is typing.

arcanacelesti

@PoetryHound I don't know any kooks other than the Mossad Agents who claim they are the best in the world and the IDF who also claim they are the best in the world, yet these Israeli kooks always contradict themselves by claiming they live on the edge of annihilation. How can Israelis be any good if they can do no better than create immanent annihilation for themselves ? Israelis are the kooks and that's why they spend so much time on YouTube cleaning-up the mess they made of 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound WTC fell into it's own foot print, meaning it fell symetrically which is only achievable with controlled demolition. The fact that it spread out when the whole building was flattened does NOT mean that the building did not fall into it's own foot print, IT DID.

NIST has admitted that WTC7 fell at freefall speed, the early collapse of the penthouse does not start the timer. The timing only starts when the top floor starts to descend.

/watch?v=mSyqfM-Rgy0

/watch?v=rVCDpL4Ax7I

arcanacelestia
22 hours ago
@LOLCATS3111 has a totally unscientific mind and that's why he calls people a "dufus" if they disagree with his absurd statement that demolition explosives will not break steel columns unless they have a loudness of 130db measured right next to the explosion. An ordinary hi-fi loudspeaker can reach 130db if you measure right next to it so LOLCATS3111 has zero technical knowledge and he has no comprehension of all the other foolish comments he makes.

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spcantwell

@arcanacelestia

casue you NEVER use insults when talking on here... oh thats right you DO

its not nearly as absurd as the untruther claim that the fires couldnt have affected the steel.

arcanacelestia
21 hours ago
@spcantwell Did I ever say I don't use insults? and if I did use an insult, please quote me? Is the fact that I discuss the topic of the video which is at the top of this thread making spcantwell and his Israeli disinformation colleagues feel a little constrained in their internet disinformation work ?

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arcanacelestia

@spcantwell says "its not nearly as absurd as the untruther claim that the fires couldnt have been hot enough to melt the steel" but spcantwell doesn't say WHAT is not absurd? Another meaningless statement from spcantwell or is spcantwell referring to the absurd way he and his Israeli debunking colleagues say the fire DID soften the steel but then contradict themselves by DENYING the video evidence showing that red hot steel was excavated from ground zero 6 weeks after 911?

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arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 WON-YOUNG KIM Senior Research Scientist, Columbia University 61 Route 9W, Palisades, New York 10964, Quoting “Won-Young Kim, told AFP that the Palisades seismographs register daily underground explosions from a quarry 20 miles away caused by 80,000 lbs of ammonium nitrate generating readings of magnitude 1 to 2. The 1993 truck-bomb at the WTC did not register on the seismographs because it was "not coupled" to the ground.”

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arcanacelest
@LOLCATS3111 PoetryHound tried to claim that Won-Young Kim spoke about WTC 7 saying, ‘’Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, as with the Twin Towers, the collapse of WTC 7 began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading to global collapse". However when challenged Rain Man PoetryHound gave no evidence Won-Young Kim ever said this so PoetryHound is lying AGAIN.

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LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ I have read that statement from Kim, I've also read the statements from Arthur Lerner Lem from LD and Brent Blanchard from PROTEC who have said there is NO SEISMIC evidence that explosives brought down the WTC ot WTC 7

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 says he has seen Won-Young Kim saying "Seismic data from multiple sources indicates that, as with the Twin Towers, the collapse of WTC 7 began slowly, completely unlike an explosive demolition but consistent with internal failures leading to global collapse". These words are only in three "debunking" websites without attribution to Kim or any other Seismologist, neither is it in Fire House Magazine Archives, but both LOLCATS and PoetryHound have "seen" it, in their dreams perhaps?

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 The quote PoetryHound attributes to Won Young Kim only appears on three dumb "debunking" websites and they don’t attribute those words to Won Young Kim or any other Seismologist. The quote is obviously rubbish because the time frame on their graph only covers 20 seconds and ALL controlled demolitions stagger the explosives over 15 to 20 seconds. The quote assumes that controlled demolition is always done in one big BANG, debunking bullshit believed by PoetryHound and LOLCATS.

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia Sorry if you can't access the Firehouse terrorism article with Kim's comment. Just because you can't google it doesn't mean it's not there. On the other hand, you lied when you said any explosives in WTC 7 would not register in seismic instruments. No seismologist, not even Kim, says that. That makes you a liar.

You also lied about there being "no shortage" of demo experts who say explosives brought down the twin towers. You can't point to even one.

PoetryHound

How about this guy? another liar?

"Just when you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down.” – FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn

PoetryHound

Is this guy a liar?

“We were concerned about additional collapse, not only of the Marriott, because there was a good portion of the Marriott still standing, but also we were pretty sure that 7 World Trade Ctr would collapse…Early on, we saw a bulge in the southwest corner between floors 10 and 13, and we had put a transit on that and we were pretty sure she was going to collapse. You actually could see there was a visible bulge, it ran up about three floors.” –FDNY Dep. Chief Peter Hayden

PoetryHound

Hey arcanac, is this guy lying?

“The major concern at that time at that particular location was number Seven, building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the north tower. When it fell, it ripped steel out from between the third and sixth floors across the facade on Vesey Street. We were concerned that the fires on several floors and the missing steel would result in the building collapsing.” FDNY Chief Frank Fellini

BlackmoonUK

Firefighter David F Tomlinson "I'm thinking of taking the missus bowling at the weekend"

Fire chief Ronald Turnip "Shit you gotta be kiddin' me! You ain't gonna find a ball with holes big enough for that fat bitch to get her pinkies in!"

Firefighter Charles "Boozer" McGuinnes "Hahahahaha aaaaaaa!!"

Check with Google to verify these quotes. They are as real as the conspiracy theorists believe.

xxRenegadeZxx

Thats the glass shattering and the concrete of the building being pulverised by the strain of the building collapsing due to fire damage, nothing sinister.

BlackmoonUK

@xxRenegadeZxx - Indeed. Anyway, to bring a building of that size down, the charges would have to be horizontally placed at the bottom of the tower, not vertically 20 stories up!

arcanacelestia

@BlackmoonUK To bring down a 47 floor building into it's own foot print you must use explosives to shear the 24 core vertical columns AT EVERY ONE OF THE 47 FLOORS. If you only sheared the columns at the bottom then the building would only fall one floor before toppling over like a felled tree. BlackmoonUK is another YouTube "armchair expert" pretending to know things he knows fuck all about.

marcioalmada

it's a new order in the world

PoetryHound

Still no evidence of any detonation charges at WTC 7.

Demo expert Brent Blanchard of Protec: "Several demolition teams had reached Ground Zero by 3:00 pm on 9/11, and these individuals witnessed the collapse of WTC 7 from within a few hundred feet of the event."

"We have spoken with several who possess extensive experience in explosive demolition, and all reported seeing or hearing nothing to indicate an explosive detonation precipitating the collapse. "

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Brent Blanchard's exagerrated credentials and the absense of evidence to support his assertions are comprehensively "debunked" at this link.

911research (.) wtc7 (.) net/reviews/blanchard/index. h tea em el

You still havn't replied to me about this link.

/watch?v=ECrssqc-1oo#t=1m35s

and this one

/watch?v=ln_WiAxiIbg

Witness to many explosions inside Building 7

/watch?v=PbbZE7c3a8Q

PoetryHound are you unemployed because you're autistic?

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia An information technology specialist trying to debunk a demo expert? Hahahaha. That's rich. Besides, in the quote I provided, Blanchard was talking about all the other demo personnel that were on site. None of them witnessed any indication of any detonation charges just before WTC 7's collapse. No firefighters saw or heard any either. In fact, they said that, unlike in a CD, the building was unstable and would collapse. Are the FDNY part of the "plot?"

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.' (NY Times)

What does @PoetryHound say about this video, does this Rain Man called poetryhound think he knows better than the witnesses speaking in this video link below?

/watch?v=ECrssqc-1oo#t=1m35s

LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ so why is it Commissioner Stephen Gregory and Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 are NOT TWOOF-TARDS !?!?!?!?!!?

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.' (NY Times)

LOLCATS3111 should not pretend to know what Gregory and Evangelista really think.

What does LOLCATS3111 say about the witnesses speaking in this video link below?

/watch?v=ECrssqc-1oo#t=1m35s

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia Neither Gregory nor Evangelista say they think explosives brought down the towers. They don't say they think they literally saw demo flashes. They said the flashes were LIKE what you'd see when they blow the building. Lot's of people said it was LIKE a bomb or AS IF it were a detonation. Learn to comprehend English.

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia If you're going to keep referring to Jennings, who supposedly felt an explosion at around 10:30am, then you need to explain how an explosion in the morning brings down a skyscraper 7 hours later.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Google any of the quotes below to verify sources.

Captain Chris Boyle says 'they' said WTC 7 is coming down. (Firehouse Magazine)

Battalion Chief John Norman says 'they’re telling us' that WTC 7 is going to fall down. (Firehouse Magazine)

Battalion Chief John Norman says 'they’re telling us' that WTC 7 is going to fall down. (Firehouse Magazine)

Who were ‘they’ and how did they know WTC would collapse when the governments later report doesn't know wy WTC7 collapsed?

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia So now you're claiming the FDNY didn't really determine WTC 7 was unstable and they just said so because some nameless person told them? LOL You're too much. So now the FDNY are part of the plot. LMAO

Hey, where are all those demo experts who supposedly said explosives brought down the twin towers? You lied about that too.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Google to verify quotes

Firefighter Lt William Ryan says he and his crew were told WTC 7 was going to collapse 'around 3 pm' and fell back until it came down. (NY Times)

A Ground Zero rescuers tells people they are walking away from the WTC 7 because it's about to 'blow up'. (CNN video @2:25)

Who were these people who told First Responders that WTC7 was going to collapse blowup and how did they know when the governments later report says they don’t know why WTC 7 collapsed?

LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ YOPU HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHO MADE THE CALL ON WTC 7

Early on the afternoon of September 11th 2001, following the collapse of WTC 1 & 2, I feared a collapse of WTC 7 as did many on my staff.

For these reasons I made the decision as ranking fire officer to clear a collapse zone surrounding the building and to stop all activity within that zone. Approximately three hours after that order was given, WTC 7 collapsed - Dan Nigro Chief of Department - FDNY

arcanacelestia

@LOLCATS3111 Chief Nigro stated he evacuated the firemen WITHOUT informing the owner, the mayor or anyone else, but the video at the link below shows Larry Silverstein evading questions from a hostile audience who don't believe his lie that he can’t remember the name of the FIRE CHIEF who said he was going to “pull” WTC7 BEFORE it collapsed. /watch?v=EtPC0W4HII8

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LOLCATS3111

@arcanacelestia ~ hundreds of Fire Chiefs at the WTC on 9/11

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound shows no sign that he has ever worked in construction or building maintenance or any other trade or profession but this does not stop PoetryHound demanding to be accepted as someone who has nothing to learn from anyone else. PoetryHound could have simply searched Google Images for “Raised Floor” but instead I’ll have to try and post some links here. Talking to PoetryHound is like slowly spoon feeding an autistic child.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "shows no sign that he has ever worked . . .blah blah blah"

And THAT is not substantiation either. Since you have repeatedly failed to point to anyone or anything that substantiates your claim about the supposed 3-foot crawl space at the WTC, then we can only conclude that you made it up.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound repeatedly asks the same questions and he repeatedly gets the same answers, but he keeps on ignoring the answers and asking the same questions and then saying “Run Run Run”. PoetryHound is locked into ridged Autistic thought patterns in which the whole world revolves around his need to believe he is right and that he has nothing to learn from anyone else. PoetryHound is bland and boring just like the pentatonic scales he has been practicing for so many years. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia keeps running away from his own claims by presenting irrelevant, tangential, or unsourced claims. That's because arcan is a brainwashed kookspiracy clown who views everything through the distorted lens of conspiracy.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound's entire youtube channel is dedicated to protecting his belief that he has nothing to learn from anyone. PoetryHound has no personal identity beyond his need to believe he has nothing to learn from anyone so PoetryHound is defending the very heart of his narcissistic personality by telling anyone who presents the personal testimony of NY Firefighters and other witnesses, that they are lying by "making things up". 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound repeatedly asks "Who says there were 3 feet of crawl space under each floor of the 3 WTC buildings?". The answer is that modern construction involves many different trades collaborating in the sequential stages of construction and it is common knowledge that high-rise open-plan office buildings have about three feet of space under every floor for the routing and periodic rearrangement of electricity, telephone and computer cables to the hundreds of desks positions on each floor.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound It is normal for electricians to crawl around in the under-floor space of modern open-plan offices without the people above knowing they are there. These under-floor spaces also give access to all the vertical steel columns so it is not impossible for the under-floor space to have been used for secret access to the vertical steel columns and pre-planned demolition could also have been facilitated by the 3 highly unusual evacuations of the twin towers during the weeks before 911.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound The Twin Towers were 1360ft tall and divided into 110 floors, giving 12 feet 3 inches per floor but the floor to ceiling height on each floor was only a little over 9 feet. Even if PoetryHound is determined to protect his ignorance by refusing to comprehend basic arithmetic, other people reading this should measure the floor to ceiling height of the room they are sitting in right now. 911 ✡ ✈ ▌▌

PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia Okay, great! What's your source for your claim that there was a 3-foot crawl space under each floor? Do you know what the word "source" means?

@PoetryHound It is normal for electricians to crawl around in the under-floor space of modern open-plan offices without the people above knowing they are there. These under-floor spaces also give access to all the vertical steel columns so it is not impossible for the under-floor space to have been used for secret access to the vertical steel columns and pre-planned demolition could also have been facilitated by the 3 highly unusual evacuations of the twin towers during the weeks before 911.

PoetryHound
@arcanacelestia "It's normal for electricians. . . etc."

Nope, that's not a reference that supports your claim that there were 3 feet of crawl space under each floor at all three WTC buildings. You said there was 3 feet but have failed to substantiate it.

arcanacelestia

@PoetryHound Raised floors are essential in high-rise offices to distribute utilities, electricity conduits, telephone lines, computer cables, sprinkler pressure pipes and aircon/heating ducting. Under-office crawl space is typically 2’6” to 3’6” and this link shows the typical height of under floor crawl space.

dot constrata dot co dot uk

WTC = 1360ft divided by 110 floors = over 12ft per floor. Internal ceiling height 9ft so utility space = aprox 3ft per floor.

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PoetryHound

@arcanacelestia "Raised floors. . ."

Nope, that's STILL not a substantiation of your claim that there were 3 feet of crawl space at each of the 2 WTC buildings. See, continuing to claim something is not the same thing as backing it up. Back it up means pointing to someone or something that substantiates what you're claiming about the WTC. You're running away instead of doing that.


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